My Thoughts on Proposition 8 and Gay Marriage in General
Assalamu alaikum, I feel a bit conflicted on the gay marriage issue. From a religious point of view, homosexuality is not permissible, and by extention, marriage between two people of the same sex isn’t permissible either. This is the same in the case of two unmarried people, a man and a woman, engaging in sexual relations, this is not permissible either, unless they are married.
However, I also have a tendency not to want to get into people’s business. And I also don’t want to be viewed as some sort of close-minded bigot either. So it makes me feel all the more conflicted when this is made into some sort of a civil rights, a la “just like other minorities”, kind of an issue. And I don’t think this is a civil rights issue, and I don’t think it can be compared to the times when people of different races couldn’t get married, to me, that is just not the same, especially from an Islamic perspective.
My problem with many of the anti-gay marriage amendments that have come up, and speaking for the one we had on the ballot in Florida, for example, was that the amendment stated specifically that “marriage is between one man and one woman”. Now firstly, I don’t really think the government should really be in the business of defining marriage in the first place, and secondly, as a Muslim, I didn’t feel that I could, in good conscience, vote “yes” on this particular amendment, because of the wording, and the fact that Allah gives men the right to four wives (not that all men should necessarily do this and I’m not attempting to go down this road and open up that can of worms). But polygyny is a right given by Allah, and I felt that by voting “yes” on this amendment, that I’d be voting “no” on something that Allah has ordained, i.e., men having multiple wives, as the exact wording in the amendment on the ballot in my state was “between one man and one woman”. Perhaps if it had said “between a man and a woman”, then I might have considered it.
In my mind, I put homosexuality, and I’m saying, the actual act, not necessarily the feelings, since to my knowledge, Islamicly speaking, there is a difference between the two, and heterosexual sex between two unmarried people, in the same category, i.e., it’s not permissible. Having said that, I know people who are together and not married, and I know people who are gay. Does this mean I’m going to run into their bedroom and physically stop them from doing whatever it is they are doing at that moment? No, because, uh, that is totally unrealistic, and would probably be extremely embarrassing for everyone involved. Would I sit them down and tell them that what they are doing is wrong? Probably not, because from what I’ve learned, when giving advice, it must not only be done in a calm and mature way (as opposed to being harsh and overbearing), I’ve also been taught that it’s not a good idea to give advice if the person on the receiving end of that advice would not take it very well or would not be receptive to taking that advice. So for me, no it’s not right, however, I also understand that we live in a country with people of differing religious views, or no religion at all. And our government should be able to accommodate everyone, that is, of course, if we are suppose to have a government that is forbidden from promoting one religion over another.
However, if I’m asked specifically, “do you agree with gay marriage” or “what do you think of homosexuality”, my answer would be, as a Muslim, my religion tels me it’s wrong. However, I am not in a Muslim country, and there are a lot of things that are legal in this country, that Islamicly speaking, are not permissible, and consuming pork and alcohol are but two examples of this. So I don’t see homosexuality as a special issue, it’s just part of the rubric of things that Allah has commanded us as Muslims not to engage in.
As far as Proposition 8 in California goes, I’m not sure what the exact wording was on the measure, however, if it was anything like the wording in Florida, I might well have voted “no” for it also. I think that Muslims who are saying that Muslims need to speak out strongly against gay marriage, and who also need to support measures such as Proposition 8, perhaps need to take a more nuanced view of the whole “gay marriage” issue, as much of the wording going into measures striking down gay marriage, or introducing laws in states that don’t already have gay marriage on the books forbidding it, say specifically “one man and one woman”. So, in supporting anti-gay marriage ballot measures and legislation, do Muslims want to also, at the same time, throw away any hope in the future of having polygynous marriages legally recognized in the US? Because many of the groups who are anti gay marriage, are also anti polygyny (and Anti Muslim too). So I’m just saying this is an issue that IMHO, we need to be careful about, as it could hurt us too, in the long run.
As far as two people of the same sex wanting to get married goes, homosexuality is something I’ve never been able to understand. Perhaps that sounds naive, perhaps that sounds close-minded, but I have to be honest about that. But I can understand the desire to have this “right” bestowed on you, when you are seeing heterosexual couples enjoying this right. And if you love someone and you want to enter into the ultimate commitment with them, but you can’t because of the laws in your state, I can understand how hurtful that could be. Having said that, though, I can’t in good conscience, get behind efforts to legalize gay marriage, whether in California or anywhere else, because though Man may be saying it’s OK, God says otherwise! However, I also don’t have a desire to introduce any anti-gay marriage amendments either. And gay marriage is not the same as interracial marriage, civil rights, or any other comparison, simply because God never said, in my religious tradition anyway, that people of differing races, abilities, cultures, etc. *couldn’t* marry. So I’m just putting that in there before I get any “but what if they said blind or disabled people couldn’t marry, what would you say then?”. It just ain’t the same thing, sorry.
So I guess you could say I take a bit of a neutral position on this issue, because I don’t see it as my issue, and I don’t like the wording or who’s behind many of the heretofore proposed, and in some cases passed, amendments and ballot measures. I don’t think the government should be telling anyone who and who can’t get married, whether it’s a homosexual couple or a man marrying his second wife. At the same time, though, as I said before, I don’t agree with gay marriage on religious grounds. So perhaps “neutral” isn’t the right word for my opinion on this issue, “nuanced” might be a more appropriate term to use.
The Israelis Don’t Care How Many Palestinians Die for Lack of Food, just as Long as “Those Militants” Stop Firing Off Those Rockets…
Assalamu alaikum, I’d woken up to pray this morning, and had laid back down after praying and was trying to go back to sleep. NewsHour had come on on the BBC World Service, and I was listening to it, and they were talking about how Israel had pretty much blocked off all of the border crossings into Gaza, were hardly letting anyone in, and that they’d even blocked humanitarian aid, such as you know, food, water, stuff that would actually keep people alive, from getting through! Ostensibly, this was done to “punish Hamas”, but as these things go, it’s punishing the civilians more, something the Israeli government doesn’t seem to care about.
And this nonchlance toward the suffering of the Palestinian people was demonstrated by this guy they had on to represent the Israeli side,I can’t remember his name, Bender somebody or another, some attache to the Israeli Embassy or something like that. When the presentor, I think her name was Clare Bolderson, asked him, after he’d said that the borders have to be closed to protect the security of Israel and to keep “militants” from shooting rockets across the border into Israel, when she mentioned the humanitarian crisis, and that the UN had called this “barbaric”, he said “I understand, but…”. And then went right on talking about how they had to close the border crossings because of something about bombs being planted, or some other such excuses.
Translation… We don’t give a crap about the Palestinian people, they could die for all we care, ’cause we’re Jews and we’re better than they are anyway! Besides, all this land belongs to us anyway. I’m telling you, his excuses, ’cause that’s what they were, were so bad, his reasons were so flimsy, that I could almost hear the presentor smirking, almost laughing at him, she had that “you’ve really got to be kidding me” tone in her voice.
When he was going on and on about borders and security, and not even answering her question about why the Israelis were denying humanitarian aid from getting through to Gaza, she tried to get him back on message, but oh no, he didnt’ want to talk about that, and his English was horrible! “Crossing borders”, instead of “border crossings”, he kept saying “crossing borders”, and that was like nails on a chalkboard to me! Not to mention he could barely speak coherently, I’m not sure if it was because he was trying to BS his way out of having to answer the question he was being asked, or if his English was really that bad!
I just love it when you get someone like that, who’s really on the bad side of things, morally, and the presentor asks them to explain themselves, and they, well, can’t! And usually, when Israel has to explain why they bombed someone’s house and killed 19 people or so, along with a bunch of small children, or why they cut off fuel and electricity in the middle of winter, or some other such atrocity, they normally have someone more well-spoken, that doesn’t do such a horrible job as this “Bender” guy…
Anyway… it made me so angry I couldn’t get back to sleep. I mean, really, both the Palestinians and Israelis really need a change of strategy, because obviously, the so-far-deployed tactics aren’t working! Closing border crossings, cutting off food and fuel supplies hasn’t met the Israelis’ objective of “stopping militants” anymore than bombing buses, pizza parlors, and firing off rockets has helped the Palestinians’ cause.
You’d think that some forward-thinking people would sit down and say “hey, maybe we should try something different, because this isn’t working! What that “something” is, I’m not sure, but obviously, the tactics so far haven’t worked. And I’m all about fighting oppression, however, I’d think a change of strategy would be needed as suicide bombings, rockets, etc., are doing nothing more than hurting your own people! And I’m not saying that the Israelis have no part in the suffering of the Palestinians, as clearly they do, but firing those rockets into Israel is just giving Israel the excuse they want to oppress you even further, so why even go there!? Has anyone tried or thought of nonviolent forms of resistance? I’m just sayin’…
Confusion: Sirius XM fumbles channel switchover
Assalamu alaikum, I agree with this entirely…
They really should have done a better job of communicating with people. Perhaps then people would have been prepared for the change. Not to talk of some of the channels they got rid of… The Rhyme/Backspin? Three out of four of the Spanish channels? Not to mention the fact that there’s still no world music channels on there. Unless you want to listen online, which if I’m going to do that, why have sattelite radio in the first place.
Personally, the music selections don’t bother me too much, and I’m really not as upset as many of the Orbitcast commentors are. The Rhyme was the only channel I really miss, and I think they could do a better job of getting rid of some of the more redundant channels, however, I also think that none of this is written in stone, I’m sure that they’ll do some tweaking of the lineup, as well as the playlists of the various channels.
I’m not to the point of cancelling my subscription as short of Chicago radio, nothing beats sattelite radio, with the selection and variety of programming that you just can’t normally get on local radio.
I’ve been hearing people recommending Slacker Radio (the website of which is extremely inaccessible, so that’s out of the question for me), or HD Radio, which I’ll have to check out.
However, not every station broadcasts in HD, and I’m still not sure if you’d get the same variety you’d get with sattelite radio. But anything is better than having sattelite radio go under totally, which could very well happen, especially with the economy being the way that it is now.
First impressions: Now with combined channels, what do you think?
… Orbitcast wants to know…
My initial thoughts? Well, not many at this point. I think the only issues I have are that there wasn’t much awareness given to customers regarding this. If I wasn’t subscribed to Sattelite radio discussion lists, or if I’d not been reading blogs dealing with Sattelite radio, then I’d not have known about the upcoming changes. And I’m not sure that this is good customer service.
Secondly, no old school hip hop channel? I don’t get this at all. They have Shade 45 and Hip Hop nation, seemingly identical channels, except perhaps Shade is uncensored, and Hip Hop Nation is not.
And The Heat, haven’t quite figured that channel out yet. Seems like they took what was The Heat yesterday and what was The City and merged it, and then took Raw and The City and merged that into Hip Hop Nation.
And only one Latin music channel? Do any of the bigwigs at Sirius XM know how many types of Latin Music there are? But I guess you coudl make that argument with African music or “world Music”, two channels I really wish they’d put back on the receivers and stop making them “online only”.
Anyway, if you look at the comments on Orbitcast, there are a lot of unhappy people out there. Many are threatening to cancel their services, if they’ve not already done so. I am not sure if I’m at that point or not. I’ll have to listen for the next few days/weeks and see what happens.
The thing is, though, with the exception of Chicago radio stations, which I listen to online, I hardly ever listen to terrestrial radio, unless I’m in the car, and I’m hoping to get a car kit for my XM receiver to chang that…
But we all knew this would happen, we all know once the merger was approved that the channels would be merged, and some would be happy, while others not. And channels are changing every few months or so, so I’m just going to wait and see what happens.
The 25th Anniversary of The Day After
Assalamu alaikum,
My husband, step-daughter, and I were coming home from Cypress Gardens earlier this evening when Studio 360 came on, and one segment on the show highlighted the fact that this month is the 25th anniversary of The Day After. Anyone remember that movie?
I didn’t see it when it actually aired, but when I did see/listen to an actual airing of the movie in 1988, I think it was, it scared the daylights outa me, really! I could hear the air-raid sirens and the sound of the bombs going off for days after that! And I really wasn’t even supposed to be up watching that movie, I was supposed to have gone to bed for the night, so it wasn’t like I could really complain about how scared I really was.
The fear of nuclear war, and the awful after-affects of it, was something that I can honestly say I was truly frightened of as a child. I can recall many nightmares I used to have, about being at school, or at home, and the bomb going off, and most of the time surviving the actual bomb only to fear dying of radiation poisoning.
I remember wishing that we had a nice, air-tight, well-ventialted, well-stocked bunker somewhere where we could all hide and emerge only when it was considered safe to do so. However, “it’s never going to be safe after a nuclear war.” was a reframe I heard often. However, I knew I didn’t want to die instantly, being vaporized, in a blinding flash, no matter how much I’d say “I hope the bomb goes off right above my head”.
I also vividly remember my father, who was in the military at the time, describing how, if a hypothetical bomb hit Indianapolis, the closest major city to us, we’d still die, even though we’d be 70 miles away from it.
Any time I heard the words “nuclear war”, “atomic bomb”, “radiation”, etc., that set me on edge, just like the words “fire drill” (something I used to live in fear of but that’s another story for another day), and as it turns out, I had more reason to fear a fire drill than the advent of an actual nuclear war.
It’s funny, though, that after re-watching The Day After and Testament (another movie of that same nuclear-war-esque genre of film), I’ve now started dreaming of underground bunkers in my backyard! How crazy is that? However, now, it’s not nightmares anymore, my dreams now have more of a slumber-party feel to them, like an “oh boy we’re going down into the bunker to ride out the storm” kinda thing.
And in all honesty, I can’t really say I live in fear of an eventual nuclear apocolypse, and I’m not sure if that has to do with me being an adult now, me now being a Muslim, or the certain knowledge that death will find all of us when Allah wills it, whether it’s due to natural causes, or due to something man-made. Perhaps it’s a little of all of those things.
But anyway, I’m wondering if any TV networks will be commemorating this “anniversary”, as it really seemed to have an impact on the American public.
Today’s Track…
Toumani Diabate - Jarabi